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  Break Media purchases FileFront.com - FileFront News
  Posted by: n0e on 02-11-2010 @ 12:24 - Source: FileFront Management
This News Item has been viewed 51,953 times
Well, as I'm sure you've all guess now with the big black bar on the top of the page when viewing the forums, we were recently purchased by Break Media.

http://news.filefront.com/break-media-acquires-filefront-network/
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Yes, you did hear that right. FileFront, Gaming Today, the FileFront Forums, and the Network Sites have been acquired by Break Media.

As our very own Jon Soucy said in the press release announcing the sale, "Break Media has a proven track record when it comes to delivering quality content and building communities around that content. We're excited to be joining Break Media, and weíre looking forward to working with them to deliver the very best in gaming coverage to our users."

All of us here at FileFront are excited to become part of the Break Media network of sites, and we look forward to continuing to bring you, our users, the quality game content you expect from FileFront. Stay tuned to Gaming Today for news on how we're working with Break to update the site's design, refocus and expand the site's editorial content, and continue to build out the FileFront community.

The full press release is available after the jump. If you're not familiar with Break, you can check out their community of entertainment sites at the links below.

* Break.com
* Screen Junkies
* Cage Potato
* Chickipedia
* Holy Taco
* Made Man
* All Left Turns


Break Media Expands Further Into Gaming, Acquires FileFront Network

Deal adds the highly trafficked gaming content property to Break Media

LOS ANGELES - Thursday, February 11 - Break Media, the Internet's premier entertainment community for men, today announced the acquisition of FileFront, a large and long-standing property dedicated to providing gaming news, downloads, and more to millions of users every month. Break Media will fold FileFront into its primary group of branded sites and invest significantly in the editorial components of the site, with an aim to provide both Break and FileFront users with additional premium gaming content.

FileFront currently boasts more than 9 million unique monthly visitors, more than 200,000 active forum users, and a network of more than 75 game-specific sites. "Gaming is a significant area of interest to our community and our brand partners," said Keith Richman, CEO of Break Media. "Adding an established property like FileFront will help us cater more effectively to that interest and add immediate scale to our existing gaming efforts."

In the coming months, the Break Media editorial team will work with the FileFront team to update the site's design, refocus and expand the site's editorial content, and continue to build out the FileFront community. The site will join other wholly owned Break Media properties Break.com, CagePotato, MadeMan, Chickipedia, HolyTaco, ScreenJunkies, and AllLeftTurns.

"Break Media has a proven track record when it comes to delivering quality content and building communities around that conent," said Jon Soucy, senior editor at FileFront. "We're excited to be joining Break Media, and we're looking forward to working with them to deliver the very best in gaming coverage to our users."

The incorporation of FileFront into the Break Media network builds on Break's recent expansion into gaming, which kicked off last month with the formation of a game development studio in Shanghai and the launch of that studio's first game, MMA FightPicker, on CagePotato.com. Adding FileFront and its dedicated community to Break will both provide Break's audience with new gaming-oriented editorial content and immediately expand the audience for Break's original games.

FileFront was created by I/O Error Development and first launched in December 2001.

About Break Media:

Break Media is one of the largest entertainment properties and providers of content --
video, editorial, and games -- to men online. The company's branded properties
(Break.com, CagePotato, MadeMan, Chickipedia, HolyTaco, ScreenJunkies, and AllLeftTurns), combined with the publisher sites in the Break Media Network, reach more than 100 million men worldwide on a monthly basis. Break Media is currently the 37th largest web property in the U.S., and it operates the fifth-largest video advertising network in that market. Break Media offers its advertisers a variety of unique marketing opportunities, helping those brands interact with the Break audience on a targeted, integrated basis using innovative ad formats. For more information, please visit Break Media.

What does this mean for all of you? Well, if you were expecting anything other than improvements all around and a team who only wants to make FileFront a success you were wrong!

Break has shown to us they are highly motivated towards making FileFront a name that everyone knows everywhere in the gaming world and have the resources to back it up!

Expect to see great things from now on.



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 #1 - 02-11-2010 at 12:33
n0e (Staff)
From: (Spring Hill, TN)
Joined: February 27th, 2004
Posts: 29
Thoughts or opinions are greatly encouraged. smile

 #2 - 02-11-2010 at 12:42
dretzel
From: (PA)
Joined: October 22nd, 2008
Posts: 156
I'm excited, hopefully this means updates galore and a lot of new, interesting stuff on the way.

Fingers are crossed!

 #3 - 02-11-2010 at 12:52
deadthunder2_0
From: (Texas)
Joined: October 7th, 2009
Posts: 255
I only hope they don't try to close the place down

 #4 - 02-11-2010 at 13:10
bubbleteatroopa
From:
Joined: July 1st, 2008
Posts: 1094
OMFG! Why does this keep happening??!?!? Watch them close it down just like the last buyer. Good job File Front. Way to loose a website.

 #5 - 02-11-2010 at 13:14
n0e (Staff)
From: (Spring Hill, TN)
Joined: February 27th, 2004
Posts: 29
It's not going to close down. The whole purpose behind the acquisition was to ensure it was kept alive. We're not going anywhere.

 #6 - 02-11-2010 at 13:31
Darth_Zenos
From: (ohio)
Joined: July 17th, 2007
Posts: 60
I like the idea of bringing more people to it. Hopefully more people will realize this game still has a huge modding community. Regardless, I'd say this is a good thing for the entire site. Cool.

 #7 - 02-11-2010 at 14:13
PETESCAN321
From:
Joined: May 11th, 2009
Posts: 389
I hope they dont take us Offline Because if they do I will be Aaargh!!!

 #8 - 02-11-2010 at 14:14
PETESCAN321
From:
Joined: May 11th, 2009
Posts: 389
Lets hope we can work together Hmmm Donut! big grin cool

 #9 - 02-11-2010 at 14:14
PETESCAN321
From:
Joined: May 11th, 2009
Posts: 389
10/10 for this good Idea

 #10 - 02-11-2010 at 14:59
Tych
From: (MA)
Joined: December 7th, 2004
Posts: 116
They are not going to eventually make this a paid membership I hope....

 #11 - 02-11-2010 at 15:48
xMandalorex (Staff)
Joined: March 20th, 2005
Posts: 210
Awesone !!!! cool

 #12 - 02-11-2010 at 15:55
xmadmardiganx (Staff)
Joined: January 14th, 2010
Posts: 1
Hey everyone!
This is Mark Burnham, Associate Gaming Editor for Break.com.

I just wanted to introduce myself, say what's up. We're really excited to work with everyone and build FF into something bigger and better.

And yes, we're definitely looking at the network sites and thinking of ways to make them prettier, more functional, etc.

More on that stuff as it develops.

Thanks for the warm welcome guys wink

 #13 - Eww - 02-11-2010 at 15:56
Jaja69
From: (Home)
Joined: October 4th, 2008
Posts: 266
Eww wtf is that gross chickipidia

 #14 - 02-11-2010 at 17:02
anus_panda
From:
Joined: September 4th, 2004
Posts: 43
I clicked on that left turns link as I thought it was about cars... I like cars. It was a NASCAR link. That was an hour ago, I'm still crying.

There is a noticeable trend in the layouts of those other sites, I'd stay away from that. They all look like those dodgy, dare I say Russian/Chinese, phishing sites which you mistakenly click on in Google due to the sheer amount of meta keywords they hold.

At least that popup at the bottom of the screen's gone, or has my machine gone a little bit Claridge again?

 #15 - 02-11-2010 at 17:43
oberlerchner123
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Joined: June 19th, 2005
Posts: 611
Judging by their other sites this this seams like nail #2 in filefronts coffin. Roll Eyes (sarcastic)

 #16 - 02-11-2010 at 20:58
bubbleteatroopa
From:
Joined: July 1st, 2008
Posts: 1094
Those other sites look horrible. DONT turn filefront into one of those...PLEASE DONT! Make it nice, sure, but NOT like that frown please dont. PLEASE DONT! I DONT WANNA LOOSE MY FILES AGAIN! frown

I agree with #15. Nail number 2. Might as well pack up and leave.

 #17 - 02-12-2010 at 00:41
jabaan1420
From:
Joined: August 9th, 2008
Posts: 26
Two Thumbs Down!

oh yes let it stay's as it is PLZ PLZ

PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ PLZ

i AGREE VERRY MUCH WITH #14 AND #15

Two Thumbs Down!

 #18 - 02-12-2010 at 02:51
Pille
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Joined: July 22nd, 2002
Posts: 1836
Their sites definately do have certain "tendencies", while I see the advantage of having more money for the development of FF and the network I agree with those who hope said development won't go into the same direction/follow the same trend as their other sites do.

 #19 - 02-12-2010 at 03:41
Chrissstrahl
From: (Ulm)
Joined: October 29th, 2006
Posts: 1019
1. The news has quite some DEEEEEELAY!
2. Will there be another disaster ? (I will not stay next time)

 #20 - sites - 02-12-2010 at 05:46
bobzilla
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Joined: April 16th, 2006
Posts: 439
Please don't turn this site into the look and feel you have on your other sites:

* Break.com
* Screen Junkies
* Cage Potato
* Chickipedia
* Holy Taco
* Made Man
* All Left Turns

These are boring, horrible!

 #21 - #18 - 02-12-2010 at 09:58
MatmanDude
Joined: November 7th, 2007
Posts: 1114
Yeah I noticed those "tendencies" myself. Notice how in the information, description thingy of Breakmedia they repeatedly say stuff like... providing quality entertainment for "men" online.

Now I'm a guy. I'm a straight guy. A very straight guy. But, I gotta say... Filefront is a gaming site for gamers, not exclusively for men. It shouldn't be turned into what Breakmedia seems to focus on mainly. Yeah, you all know what I mean.

We've all been thinking it... I'm just coming out and saying it... let's just say... this site may not be (for the kids) parent friendly much longer.

Heed my warning people.

 #22 - 02-12-2010 at 10:59
Lagomorphia
Joined: May 27th, 2009
Posts: 9
What a shame. I liked this site.

 #23 - 02-12-2010 at 12:01
IKS_Yo_Mama
From: (New York City)
Joined: February 5th, 2005
Posts: 3497
It looks ominous, they have put yet another distraction on the sites, a big ugly bar on the top of the network....with all the advertising and bullsh*t links on the network it has become convulted and has frankly becoming a clusterf*ck.

The new owners content seems to be less than useful, design is a mess, their sites are full of shady links/advertising and some of their content is very adult orientated. A Major step back.. this network is but a pale shadow of what it used to be....hopefully Goody won't close the comment thread now whining about negative criticism

 #24 - 02-12-2010 at 12:17
Chrissstrahl
From: (Ulm)
Joined: October 29th, 2006
Posts: 1019
I agree with:
#20
#21
#22
#23

 #25 - 02-12-2010 at 13:29
deadthunder2_0
From: (Texas)
Joined: October 7th, 2009
Posts: 255
The worst part is that those sites are very sensationalist, I went to chikapedia, and saw their lil hottest sifi women post, and thought T'pol would be on the list, but no they followed the bandwagon and wet with a avatar woman.

Quote:
hopefully Goody won't close the comment thread now whining about negative criticism

I agree, this is info from gamers that break needs to get, if they don't listen, they will not get along here. yay, the roll-up adverts are gone, and the full screen ones seem to be gone, but the black bar doesn't compliment BC Files at all, it has a mustard yellow and light gray trend, the link bar doesn't fit in.

The site will die a slow death, just like BCU. Filefront never recovered from the closing scare, and is slowly coming back, but this might hinder that.

Quote:
More on that stuff as it develops.

nope, we need all the info yall have on how yall are going to change FF, if it is a paid membership, then byebye. If you bring BC back into it's hayday, then great, just don't crap up the sites

 #26 - 02-12-2010 at 14:49
Pille
From:
Joined: July 22nd, 2002
Posts: 1836
Deadthunder, keep in mind this news item is displaying on every network site, most people won't have a clue what BCU or Bridge Commander are. You should keep these posts general wink

 #27 - 02-12-2010 at 16:48
bubbleteatroopa
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Joined: July 1st, 2008
Posts: 1094
Too bad. I had lots of fun on this site...been here since 08. If they change it to look like their other sites, it will be the downfall of filefront. This is not a "male oriented" site. Its for gamers of all genders, sexual preferences, races and ages. You HAVE to let it be. I can deal with the bar at the top, but anything else and it will ruin filefront.

 #28 - 02-12-2010 at 17:58
_sith_ssdironfist (Staff)
From: (Westbank BC)
Joined: July 7th, 2006
Posts: 180
People. You need to calm down. Like previously stated, this is a good thing for Filefront, We now have the money backing to do what we want to do, to upgrade this site, and make them better.

 #29 - not sure.... - 02-12-2010 at 20:54
Galileo126
From:
Joined: August 14th, 2006
Posts: 70
I'm glad that Filefront has a big Daddy, so long as they let the "child" grow up on its own. If Battlefield2.Filefront morphs into some corporate wh*re, then Break Media just killed their own children. To Break Media: "Listen to your new-found adoptees.....LISTEN.....and adapt." You will actually MAKE MONEY by having loyalty to those of us who know ... by listening to us fans of this site.....I hope that Break Media pumps in support of this site, money and talent....and not just looking to make a "quick turnaround" for a one-year "bottom line".

OK...I finally fell off my soapbox (ouch!). We dig this site....let us influence it, "we the Community".

I need a beer.

 #30 - 02-12-2010 at 21:52
Sl4sh
From: (Toronto)
Joined: March 21st, 2006
Posts: 365
I find it funny to see people coming up with their own conclusions and predicting doom and terror for FF without even seeing a change.

 #31 - 02-12-2010 at 22:23
frostmourn4
From:
Joined: August 4th, 2008
Posts: 127
What ever is done to the site it should stay family friendly. If this becomes like their other sites, I'm gone. This is a family friendly gaming site, not a "men's entertainment" site.

 #32 - 02-13-2010 at 02:00
Digz (Staff)
From: (London)
Joined: March 26th, 2006
Posts: 1090
Quote:
I find it funny to see people coming up with their own conclusions and predicting doom and terror for FF without even seeing a change.

Members should feel free to say what they think, they are basing their conclusions on what breakmedia has done for their own sites, which I would argue is perfectly valid.

What I urge members to do is to stick with FileFront through this period of change we are going through, I'm sure that BM will give us a say in all concepts that they may wish to change, which means that any changes will be to FileFronts benefit and to the benefit of the FileFront community.

 #33 - 02-13-2010 at 02:04
Lagomorphia
Joined: May 27th, 2009
Posts: 9
I'd axe the banner at the top. When new members turn up and click on those abhorrencies they certainly won't join FileFront. Its fine owning the site and increasing funding and improving on the grounds of file retrieval speeds, but twisting it into sensationalist rubbish that will set off every parental block in the world would be nigh evil. Nobody here wants that stuff on this site. So please think before you consider vandalising Filefront. This is the only resource download site I have left ever since megaupload turned to piracy and pornographic advertising.

 #34 - 02-13-2010 at 07:33
Chrissstrahl
From: (Ulm)
Joined: October 29th, 2006
Posts: 1019
@ #30
We had that once, nobody here likes a new owner as the last one tried to shut the sites down to save money.
With the on going √úbercapitalism style which seams to be modern all over the world good things are destroyed, not the first time and for sure not the last time.

 #35 - Also - 02-13-2010 at 10:11
deadthunder2_0
From: (Texas)
Joined: October 7th, 2009
Posts: 255
I am using Ad-Block, and i got rid of the toolbar, looks better now

 #36 - sorry for double post - 02-13-2010 at 12:48
deadthunder2_0
From: (Texas)
Joined: October 7th, 2009
Posts: 255
Quote:
Break Media is one of the largest entertainment properties and providers of content --video, editorial, and games -- to men online. The company's branded properties(Break.com, CagePotato, MadeMan, Chickipedia, HolyTaco, ScreenJunkies, and AllLeftTurns), combined with the publisher sites in the Break Media Network, reach more than 100 million men worldwide on a monthly basis. Break Media is currently the 37th largest web property in the U.S., and it operates the fifth-largest video advertising network in that market. Break Media offers its advertisers a variety of unique marketing opportunities, helping those brands interact with the Break audience on a targeted, integrated basis using innovative ad formats. For more information, please visit Break Media.

I belive the ratio of males to females on the FF network is about 10|3, making 202,363 female members, and they won't be to happy with this

 #37 - 02-13-2010 at 13:04
Lagomorphia
Joined: May 27th, 2009
Posts: 9
Hopefully the plague contaminating their other sites won't spread here.

 #38 - 02-13-2010 at 14:25
IKS_Yo_Mama
From: (New York City)
Joined: February 5th, 2005
Posts: 3497
Guys we have heard all the rhetoric before, now we are bought out we will have money, changes and blah blah blah. Nothing will change, the same apathy will be here and this is indeed another nail in the proverbial coffin. Take it as you wish Staff, but the communities are telling you want they think - whine and complain about what we have to say all you want but people are tired of the same old veiled promises and lofty words from the top. Say whatever you will of people like me, but we have a point. Filefront doesn't need new owners it needs better administration from top down. But whatever, I am bitter about many things and I am an evil anti-Filefront ***** right?...or at least that is what Jeff has all of you thinking anyway.

 #39 - 02-13-2010 at 14:32
IKS_Yo_Mama
From: (New York City)
Joined: February 5th, 2005
Posts: 3497
Guys we have heard all the rhetoric before, now we are bought out we will have money, changes and blah blah blah. Nothing will change, the same apathy will be here and this is indeed another nail in the proverbial coffin. Take it as you wish Staff, but the communities are telling you want they think - whine and complain about what we have to say all you want but people are tired of the same old veiled promises and lofty words from the top. Say whatever you will of people like me, but we have a point. Filefront doesn't need new owners it needs better administration from top down. But whatever, I am bitter about many things and I am an evil anti-Filefront ***** right?...or at least that is what Jeff has all of you thinking anyway..

 #40 - 02-13-2010 at 14:33
ZimmMaster
From:
Joined: June 30th, 2008
Posts: 119
I too hope they don't make free FileFront membership go away. What will happen to the current and future members?

 #41 - 02-13-2010 at 15:25
Ronnie
From: (Leiden)
Joined: December 4th, 2002
Posts: 647
200,000 active forum users eek!


I hope this and any future takeovers will bring nothing but good to FileFront smile

 #42 - 02-13-2010 at 17:02
anus_panda
From:
Joined: September 4th, 2004
Posts: 43
I assumies the moneys worries are ovaries now with Break Media? If not, you may need to think even further outside the <table>.

Ads look like the major revenue source but I personally never click them, they could link to anything. I'd rather spend the extra fifth of a second opening Google and searching for it there. Probably just me being old, don't trust anything on the Internet though.

Most of your money will probably be going on bandwidth so I'd either partner with another major gaming site (not too down with the kids today, is MODDB still cool?) so you can share download links or... ugh, you can get a sponsor like ATI and stick their graphic in every compressed download file with a file comment (does winzip do that or just winrar?). Maybe just do it for free members, give a better reason to join up.

As that brother said earlier (I forget his name) those of us running widescreen do have a bit of emptiness around the center table and I'm only running 1680*1050, however I do recognise that the site is so small to cater for older (jesus-prehistoric-christ) machines and web-booktards. Still, it's a lot of vacant non-interactive ad space.

Why would you 'break media' anyway, kind of hard to get hold of original copies of TA+expansions and Carmageddon these days.

 #43 - 02-13-2010 at 18:14
TheShady
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Posts: 1129
Stay sovereign, FileFront.

 #44 - 02-13-2010 at 18:50
Nickious
From: (AR)
Joined: July 11th, 2008
Posts: 161
I really hope this doesn't ruin filefront. I was seriously sad when they had decided to close the sites that last year. Hopefully their is not a nail in the coffin

I think the plaque right there was poor at addressing file front joining their sites. Filefront isn't just for men. In fact many of the people here may no older then 20. This site is known for being family friendly and keeps its content respectable which i respect. And while females are not all into gaming like their male counterparts, they still do play or make files for the site. I don't know if it was unintentional or whatever, but this site inst just for men. Its for the gamer nation.

 #45 - 02-13-2010 at 19:00
bubbleteatroopa
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Joined: July 1st, 2008
Posts: 1094
There are many, many females that make files and use this site. There are also allot of children under the age of 12 here. Damn serious. This HAS to be kept family friendly.

 #46 - 02-14-2010 at 01:24
Lagomorphia
Joined: May 27th, 2009
Posts: 9
I just saw one of those strobe-lighted con banners that says "You won £$£$£$£$£$£$£!!!!! Click here to send us your credit card details!"

Looks like the fools at Break Media are selling Filefront to the devil already.

 #47 - 02-14-2010 at 04:07
GOODY (Staff)
From:
Joined: April 24th, 2005
Posts: 1000
Nice to see some of the usual suspects spouting there usual bile. It is also intersting to see peoples reactions to this news and that they have posted with genuine ignorance.
FileFront will still be FileFront and by that a dedicated network of sites for gamers. It will remain family friendly even though you have to be 13 to sign up and most of the games we support in the networks sites require you to be 18 to purchase.
You want proof ? Go and look at breaks other sites. Seriously go and look at there games network and see if there is porn on there. No there is not just a site dedicated to flash games (what a suprise)
The simple fact is that we have been purchased by a massive network of sites looking to diversify into main stream gaming and we are the best option for them. Now they want to invest time and money into the whole of FileFront with particular attention to the network sites and most of you see that as a bad thing mad

If proggress is not what you want then hit the logout button and go and pay for a inferior service elsewere. For those of you that can see this for what it really is you are welcome with open arms and personaly invited to stick around and be a part of a exciting new begining.

 #48 - 02-14-2010 at 08:31
JulioC
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Posts: 1536
1) As a gay teenager I was quite disgusted when I say the Chikipedia site. Not all of the world is straight, y'know.

2) Old-fashioned parents will not like their children visiting websites that contain mildy sexual material, even if it's an affiliate site.

3) It seems to me, and many others, that BreakMedia (by the way most of us have never heard of them before) will now want to monopolize FileFront's administration.

4) It's suspicious that ALL of the staff members seem to be happy with the acquisition of FileFront. Either they got some e-mail from the suits at the top, or they're scared of being kicked off the site. I would too, after all, what does an unknown multimedia service purchaser know about modding communities and how FileFront works?

Obviously I know that FileFront needs the money, but to be bought out by an unkown, insulting for non-straight-people organization... it seems quite ridiculous to me.

Let's just hope they take down the Chikipedia site soon enough.

 #49 - 02-14-2010 at 09:15
GOODY (Staff)
From:
Joined: April 24th, 2005
Posts: 1000
1) your right all the world is not straight but no-one is forcing you to visit chickpedia but what about gay women ? are you going to deny them there pleasures just because it does not float your boat ?

2) Children should not be visiting sites for games they are not old enough to buy.

3)Simply untrue. The truth is that break are in talks with the FF managers about what how these sites can be improved instead of just doing what they like.

4) not all staff are happy and there has been no email and no one is scared of being kicked off the site. What break are doing is listening to the managers and that is the best thing they could have done.
I would hardly describe te 5th biggest public video hosting site as a unknown.

Break may not know much about mods although they have commisioned games and I think they even set up there own flash games studio but that aside you as members will not be dealing with them but with the same staff you have always delt with.

So again I really do not understand peoples opposition to this at all.

 #50 - 02-14-2010 at 09:52
Erstok
Joined: September 17th, 2008
Posts: 257
Blah blah blah blah blah. As long as file modifiers can still upload and show off their work don't think anyone will care in the long run.

 #51 - 02-14-2010 at 10:12
Freyr (Staff)
From: (FileFront Network Administrator)
Joined: December 23rd, 2004
Posts: 784
Quote:
4) It's suspicious that ALL of the staff members seem to be happy with the acquisition of FileFront. Either they got some e-mail from the suits at the top, or they're scared of being kicked off the site. I would too, after all, what does an unknown multimedia service purchaser know about modding communities and how FileFront works?

We were told in confidence before everybody else by the management, so the staff have already had plenty of time to raise any concerns we have had directly with the management. Even if our concerns hadn't already been answered then would you:-

A) Post something in a news item where it would be buried under other replies, or
B) Ask the management directly?

We haven't been asked, ordered, threatened, compelled or offered incentives to remain silent. I hope that's categorical enough. I can't speak for anybody other than myself, but having discussed this with the management at length i'm happy.

I think that this is a great development that Filefront stands to gain a lot from. Ultimately, we'll see if i'm right in a few months.

 #52 - 02-14-2010 at 11:51
Pille
From:
Joined: July 22nd, 2002
Posts: 1836
Quote:
So again I really do not understand peoples opposition to this at all.

While I agree with your point about children who aren't old enough to play the games shouldn't visit here, we also have adult gamers in relationships. I would imagine it quite troubling if a gamer came here for files, gets confronted with "Chickipedia" like content, and in that moment his unaware girl-/boyfriend/wife/ steps into the room. Not everyone takes that lightly. wink

But yeah, I will say that I belong to those you mentioned who don't like this turn of events at all. I understand it was simply too much to be kept up by private persons, but the memories of Ziff Davis where things started quite similar is still very fresh in my mind. That doesn't mean I am not willing to give the new owners a chance to establish themselves, but my trust into them at this point is very low.

What I like though is that n0e and the network administrators have at no time restricted our right to voice our opinions and concerns. That's not natural in today's economy, so while I see where JulioC is coming from, point 4 is simply untrue. smile

 #53 - kids shouldn't go to sites - 02-14-2010 at 14:10
deadthunder2_0
From: (Texas)
Joined: October 7th, 2009
Posts: 255


Quote:
2) Children should not be visiting sites for games they are not old enough to buy.


1)Kids parents buy the games, where do you get all of the people who call you a n00b in games like Halo, they are kids. My 8 year old brother plays my COD MW2 game, i am 14, and my parents bought it.
2) a E rated game like any of the Star Trek games you have here kids can buy
3)Society raises kids to lie about their age to sign up for websites, live with it

Quote:
3)Simply untrue. The truth is that break are in talks with the FF managers about what how these sites can be improved instead of just doing what they like.


well, look at one of your few vip members post

Quote:
Guys we have heard all the rhetoric before, now we are bought out we will have money, changes and blah blah blah. Nothing will change, the same apathy will be here and this is indeed another nail in the proverbial coffin. Take it as you wish Staff, but the communities are telling you want they think - whine and complain about what we have to say all you want but people are tired of the same old veiled promises and lofty words from the top. Say whatever you will of people like me, but we have a point. Filefront doesn't need new owners it needs better administration from top down. But whatever, I am bitter about many things and I am an evil anti-Filefront ***** right?...or at least that is what Jeff has all of you thinking anyway.

yall dont have proof that this isn't a:
Quote:
nail in the proverbial coffin

 #54 - 02-14-2010 at 18:11
Metall_pingwin
From:
Joined: April 27th, 2005
Posts: 459
Quote:
It's suspicious that ALL of the staff members seem to be happy with the acquisition of FileFront. Either they got some e-mail from the suits at the top, or they're scared of being kicked off the site. I would too, after all, what does an unknown multimedia service purchaser know about modding communities and how FileFront works?

Or perhaps we're happy because we actually have an idea of how this stuff works. Because we know more, because we're being told more, because we have past experiences to build on and maybe because our current situation can't get much worse.

You know those big annoying ads in the middle of our reviews? That's not corporate takeover, that's lack therof.

And also, no reasonable company buys property just to run it into the ground. The least we can expect from Break.com is that they'll TRY to breathe a new life into filefront, something which we've needed for some time now.

 #55 - 02-14-2010 at 18:23
Metall_pingwin
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Posts: 459
Look at me, i'm double posting.

My point in general is: Have a bit of faith, and take it a little easy. Filefront isn't going away, and it's not going to change into a blog about men playing games (we hopestick out tongue) When Ziff Davis took over it wasn't all bad either. Certainly not four our regular members!

 #56 - 02-14-2010 at 22:24
bubbleteatroopa
From:
Joined: July 1st, 2008
Posts: 1094
Let me tell you something

I completely agree with JulioC that the whole world is not straight. I think that Break Media should take the links off of the top and let filefront be as is.

 #57 - 02-14-2010 at 22:25
bubbleteatroopa
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Posts: 1094
And yes, I do think that its odd that all of the administrators and staff are pro change. I find it VERY odd. Let me tell you another thing:

I don't know what is going on here, but if filefront changes into one of those crap sites that Break media Operates, then im leaving and taking my files and service somewhere else. I advise all of you to do the same.

 #58 - @bubbleteatroopa - 02-15-2010 at 01:47
skywalker421beta
From: (In da hood)
Joined: December 17th, 2009
Posts: 338
i agree they should take those links off. and im getting sick of seeing those damn 999,999 visator advertisements, well someone had to mention that. well im not sure if they had them before actuly.

 #59 - 02-15-2010 at 01:51
skywalker421beta
From: (In da hood)
Joined: December 17th, 2009
Posts: 338
oh btw mettall pingwan you "hope" it wont be a men gaming blog. really you "hope" it.
but anyways as long as its safe for 11 yes 11 years and up im fine with it.

 #60 - 02-15-2010 at 02:08
skywalker421beta
From: (In da hood)
Joined: December 17th, 2009
Posts: 338
ahhh! what the hell is with chickepedia. i really expect to see mush fewer women here. what?! screenjunkies too. "arent you a little hot for a stormtrooper"?, what is wrong with break media.

i really hope filefront wont be like those other sites no i beg filefront not to be like those sites.

 #61 - yah thats right im quadruple posting - 02-15-2010 at 02:10
skywalker421beta
From: (In da hood)
Joined: December 17th, 2009
Posts: 338
break media is just like spike tv. who here agrees.

 #62 - 02-15-2010 at 02:40
Pille
From:
Joined: July 22nd, 2002
Posts: 1836
Bubbletroopa. if you read Goody's and my post above you will quickly find out that not everyone is happy with it.

 #63 - 02-15-2010 at 02:51
Freyr (Staff)
From: (FileFront Network Administrator)
Joined: December 23rd, 2004
Posts: 784
Quote:
I only hope they don't try to close the place down

Break Media does not plan to close FileFront down. Doing so after spending considerable amounts of money buying us would be a bit stupid, don't you think?

Note the comment from "N0e". He's not just Staff, he's management and knows more than anybody else. Anything he says can be read as gospel.

Quote:
They are not going to eventually make this a paid membership I hope....

It's not planned.

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Yeah I noticed those "tendencies" myself. Notice how in the information, description thingy of Breakmedia they repeatedly say stuff like... providing quality entertainment for "men" online.

Break Media appreciate the difference. You see the previous network news item a week or so back asking for comments on what members would like to see on the network?

That was posted at Breaks request because they wanted to see what your opinions were. Does it sound like they are going to wreck the site?

Quote:
Guys we have heard all the rhetoric before, now we are bought out we will have money, changes and blah blah blah. Nothing will change, the same apathy will be here and this is indeed another nail in the proverbial coffin.

To be perfectly honest, Your going to look awfully stupid in a few months if you keep repeating this like a broken record.

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Take it as you wish Staff, but the communities are telling you want they think - whine and complain about what we have to say all you want but people are tired of the same old veiled promises and lofty words from the top. Say whatever you will of people like me, but we have a point. Filefront doesn't need new owners it needs better administration from top down.
Actually, it's not the "communities". A few people have legitimate concerns, and a couple of people have an agenda. The Armada Community had initial concerns, having answered them most people see that this is a positive step.
Quote:
But whatever, I am bitter about many things and I am an evil anti-Filefront ***** right?...or at least that is what Jeff has all of you thinking anyway.

Actually, Jeff hasn't said anything to us about you.

You come across as bitter that you were passed over for being a Network Administrator last time a couple were promoted. That's because the constant anti filefront tirades denouncing the administration started about a minute after the last time a few people were promoted to Network Admins and you decided to quit.

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I too hope they don't make free FileFront membership go away. What will happen to the current and future members?

They won't, and current and future members will continue as they always have.

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I just saw one of those strobe-lighted con banners that says "You won £$£$£$£$£$£$£!!!!! Click here to send us your credit card details!"

Looks like the fools at Break Media are selling Filefront to the devil already.


Or maybe having owned FileFront for all of two days, over a weekend they haven't had a chance to do anything about the fact that when we were independent we had to take pretty much any advert that we could get to pay for the site? Perhaps?

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Blah blah blah blah blah. As long as file modifiers can still upload and show off their work don't think anyone will care in the long run.

This is precisely the point. A few people have legitimate concerns and some people are just getting really paranoid about incredibly implausible scenarios. Pretty much everybody will be happy when they see what Break is bringing to Filefront.

Quote:
And yes, I do think that its odd that all of the administrators and staff are pro change. I find it VERY odd. Let me tell you another thing:
I'd just echo what Metal Pingwin has said.

I find it VERY odd that you think it would be otherwise. Seriously, we will know more than you do. We have a pretty good idea what to expect, but we aren't able to share that with everybody because we were told in confidence. If we did tell you all about things we were meant to keep quiet, do you think we'd get told next time?

Would that explain why pretty much all the staff are happy with this?

Take a look at #12, posted by Mark Burnham, Associate Gaming Editor for Break.com.
Quote:
And yes, we're definitely looking at the network sites and thinking of ways to make them prettier, more functional, etc.

The network sites look like dated relics of the late 90's. There is a reason for that, that's when they were developed and they haven't had pretty much any attention since.

In their own words, Break is looking at the network sites and looking at ways of making them prettier and more functional. You seriously expect us to be anything other than happy at that? Are you running a competing site or something?

 #64 - mabey we are over reacting - 02-15-2010 at 02:58
skywalker421beta
From: (In da hood)
Joined: December 17th, 2009
Posts: 338
i supose you might be right Freyr. and as long as this site is for men and women and no adult content then its ok with me

 #65 - 02-15-2010 at 04:16
GOODY (Staff)
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Posts: 1000
DeadThunder. I liked your live with it remark. You are new here and thats fine so I will fill you in on a couple of things.
As you can see from some of the staffs reactions to the "vip" members post it is meaningless to us. We have had dealings of the very same nature with IKS and to be honest we are sick of hearing the same old rubbish from him.
You say you are 14 again that is not a issue but I feel obliged to give you a heads up. I am a network admin here and I have to abide by the same rules that you and every other member does but I will not tolorate attitude towards me or my staff.
You are entitiled to your opinion and we would like to hear them but present them in a respectfull manner or I will remove you from the network sites and the forums.

Goody
FileFront Network Adminstrator.

Now back on topic.
I see a lot of opposition to chickpedia, There is one simple solution to this. Don't click the link wink
There will be no redirecting to chickpedia or any other site within break so as long as you do not click the links nothing will change. If you do not beleieve me then visit break.com and see if you get redirected ?
Or visit here http://www.break.com/games/games.html this is breaks flash games site. There is no porn or anything and you might actually enjoy that section.

 #66 - 02-15-2010 at 07:56
Diver_Mcdivey
From: (Aberdeenshire)
Joined: July 19th, 2005
Posts: 41
Well, I'm cautiously optimistic about where this could lead.

I mean, although what happened with Ziff Media still leaves a bitter taste in my mouth, it seems that (hopefully) these guys might genuinely care about what happens to this sight.


Here's hoping. wink

 #67 - 02-15-2010 at 11:24
Freyr (Staff)
From: (FileFront Network Administrator)
Joined: December 23rd, 2004
Posts: 784
Given that some people have been speculating about Break's intentions and fearing the worst I thought put your concerns directly to the management.

As you can see from Jeff's reply Break aren't going to be harming the network. On the contrary, they will be supercharging the network with new features and a new look to make the site a better experience.
Quote:
-----Original Message-----
From: Freyr [mailto:freyr@a2upgrades.net]
Sent: Sunday, February 14, 2010 2:31 PM
To: "Jeff Mills", FileFront Community Manager
Subject: Break

Jeff,

A number of people in our community are concerned about the following
points. I was wondering if you could give me a definitive answer that I can
quote to settle concerns on the following points:-

1) There is strong concern that FileFront is going to get less "family
friendly" because Break's existing sites are strongly "male-oriented"
and Break may not appreciate that the different demographic needs a
different approach to management.

2) People are concerned that Break might choose to close some of the network
sites down.

3) Could you confirm that Break won't require a paid membership to download
files.

Regards,

Freyr

-----Original Message-----
Date : Mon, 15 Feb 2010 15:16:43 +0000 (GMT Standard Time)
From : "Jeff Mills", FileFront Community Manager
To : "'Freyr'" <freyr@a2upgrades.net>
Subject : Break


Hey Freyr,

I can answer each of these questions and you will be delighted at the
answers.

1) While there are sites on Break Medias network that are more 'male
oriented', we have emphasized that we must maintain a level of content that
is suitable for children 13 and older. They have no problems with this and
agree with our stance that when we begin doing additional content that the
age appropriateness of what is shown remains what you would expect to see on
FileFront.

2) They have expressed no interest in shutting down any of the current
network sites, including the ones that are no longer being updated. I have
maintained that point to them that even those sites no longer having staff
are still driving traffic. _If_ this is changed and they do want to close
down certain sites, it will only be towards those sites who no longer have
staff or an active community. We have shown that our sites have very strong
and loyal communities and doing anything to upset them would hurt us in the
long run.

3) There have been talks of a paid membership, but what is being discussed
would not remove the free download option nor restrict bandwidth of
downloading files but be focused on other options we can now provide.
Possibility of ad-free content, upgraded file sizes to upload, etc..
absolutely none of the options are confirmed though and everything is still
far from being completed, however the above mentioned free downloads and
unrestricted bandwidth will not be touched. I cannot promise completely this
will change but we're all in agreement as of writing this that to maintain
what FileFront is to the gaming community we cannot remove any current
option we provide, only add to them.

I hope this helps clarify some questions about what's going on and calms
ruffled feathers about a new company taking us over. They've been bending
over backwards to make sure that what will happen with FileFront is
something that the current management will be a part of 100%. Think of it
this way, they see us as a car they just bought and now they're going to go
add new rims, interior design, overpower the engine and give us a new paint
job. They're not taking away any part of the car, just either adding to it
or upgrading it.

Thanks,
Jeff


As you can see, it's entirely good news. When you also consider Marks point at #12 here, you can see that Break is only intending on building on what FileFront has to offer.

Personally, i'm looking forward to seeing the new design and new features in action and I don't see that there is really that much to worry about.

 #68 - 02-15-2010 at 14:52
bubbleteatroopa
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Posts: 1094
When they say "We want to make this site prettier" they mean turn it into the same colour scheme as all of their other websites.

 #69 - 02-15-2010 at 17:09
Nickious
From: (AR)
Joined: July 11th, 2008
Posts: 161
Everything sounds ok from what the staff member said except this:

3) There have been talks of a paid membership, but what is being discussed
would not remove the free download option nor restrict bandwidth of
downloading files but be focused on other options we can now provide.
Possibility of ad-free content, upgraded file sizes to upload, etc..
absolutely none of the options are confirmed though and everything is still
far from being completed, however the above mentioned free downloads and
unrestricted bandwidth will not be touched. I cannot promise completely this
will change but we're all in agreement as of writing this that to maintain
what FileFront is to the gaming community we cannot remove any current
option we provide, only add to them.

 #70 - 02-15-2010 at 18:41
_sith_ssdironfist (Staff)
From: (Westbank BC)
Joined: July 7th, 2006
Posts: 180
@68

No, no they dont. You are jumping to a conclusion that has yet to be seen.

 #71 - 02-15-2010 at 21:09
bubbleteatroopa
From:
Joined: July 1st, 2008
Posts: 1094
@_sith_ssdironfist

Oh shut up will you?

Im saying what im saying because I know how this stuff can end up like. I have a completely valid point. How do you know they will not? Have you even looked at all of their sites? Im putting my opinion forward before the "prettier change" happens. I wont stand there and take it like you.

 #72 - 02-15-2010 at 22:53
_sith_ssdironfist (Staff)
From: (Westbank BC)
Joined: July 7th, 2006
Posts: 180
Oh no, I dont have to shut up.

Yes I have looked at all their sites, But I have also seen our site, and its different. We are different as a whole. AS said, the entire reason for this was for them to gauge the community's reactions, and considering people dont want the same stuff, I highly doubt we will get the same design.

 #73 - 02-16-2010 at 02:31
GOODY (Staff)
From:
Joined: April 24th, 2005
Posts: 1000
#71
I will say this again to you and to every one. You will show respect to the staff here or I will remove you from the sites.
I and all the other Network Admins and Managers will not tolorate any disrespect towards our staff who give up there free time to provide you all with our service.

The managment did not have to inform anyone about this but they did out of respect towards the members.

Now on the topic in hand, not all breaks sites look the same. The games site is quite close in design to our main FF site. So you bubble have not looked at all there sites as you claimed.

 #74 - 02-16-2010 at 02:58
Freyr (Staff)
From: (FileFront Network Administrator)
Joined: December 23rd, 2004
Posts: 784
Quote:
When they say "We want to make this site prettier" they mean turn it into the same colour scheme as all of their other websites.

He said that they want to make the site prettier. He means that. What is said speaks for itself without you needing to try and spin it into meaning something completely different.

I think it's funny that having had every single other one of your concerns demolished your coming up with new reasons why this is a bad idea.

Running a competing website, are we?

I'd also point out that telling any member to shut up is considered a little rude. Telling a Staff member to shut up on their own website is widely considered to be stupid. Don't do it again.

Quote:
Everything sounds ok from what the staff member said except this:

3) <snip>


At the moment you can upload 600MB to the network through the upload form. It's not actually limited and you can get away with uploading slightly more than that. The note saying the limit is 600MB is simply there because uploads start failing when people try and upload more than that through it.

Anything other than that gets handled manually by a staff member. Do you really think we are going to start declining the largest (and most popular) files? They've already said they won't remove functionality, only add to it. Removing the functionality for the Staff to upload large files is pretty fundamental.

Enhanced upload limits apply more to the main filefront.com site.

Anyway, if you note what he's saying is that filefront as is will be free to use. There may eventually be a paid membership that lets you remove the adverts and get access to some new features that normal members can't, but c'mon. The site's got to pay for itself somehow.

 #75 - 02-16-2010 at 13:42
JulioC
From:
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Posts: 1536
First off, I think I was... bah, fine, I was rather rude. There! =_=

Second, THANK YOU FOR ACTUALLY ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS WITH FACTS.

Third... Please, admins, don't make out that we're being stupid because we weren't contacted stuff by Jeff or others, were we? We're asking questions and if you can't answer them without being rude... Go and live on a farm far, far away from us ^^

Last of all, please, next time we have a question, either answer with a fact or just say you're not sure or you haven't been told. It ain't hard, and it saves loads of arguments.

Cheers <3

 #76 - 02-16-2010 at 14:33
NOZYSPY (Staff)
From:
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Posts: 811
While i still have some misgivings, after more thought i think that if this is done right it will be very beneficial for FileFront, afterall the staff have been privy to information that the general mambers are not aware of.

Lets at least try and keep this civilised eh guys? No arguing please! smile

Noz

 #77 - We'll See... - 02-16-2010 at 15:19
furswift
From: (New York)
Joined: June 23rd, 2007
Posts: 97
I think what this boils down to is whether or not Break Media is run by competent business people. If they listen to our requests and keep the site welcoming to all genders, races, ages, and sexual orientations as well as not screwing up the look of the site (I don't care how old it is, I still like it and it has a refreshing lack of "in your face" graphical elements), then members like myself will keep coming back, especially if they can streamline the search, upload and download processes.
If they choose to follow pointless focus group data or impose misguided values as to what this site should be and turn it into a straight male dominated sleazefest (I'm a straight male, BTW) then they'll get what they deserve and we'll migrate away while they lose revenue.
But they'd have to be stupid to do that, and as of right now I'm willing to give them the benefit of the doubt.

 #78 - To comment 10 - 02-16-2010 at 16:19
Darth_Vulcher
From: (Wisconsin)
Joined: February 21st, 2009
Posts: 17
For the hell we know, that'll probally happen.

 #79 - Stability - 02-16-2010 at 16:53
redeemed74
From: (Xenia, Ohio)
Joined: June 7th, 2008
Posts: 286
Well, this has been a rather hot topic! I for one was glad that FileFront is now a part of a larger network as it is likely to provide more stability than being on it's own. A big boat moves less in stormy water than a small one!

I have to share my concerns along with the others, though, that FileFront be kept free from these other sites that get as close to porn as they can. Most of the games on the site, even those that are rated Mature, are for action and violence and don't contain graphic nudity. I know a lot of parents that will approve action games for their kids when it it doesn't contain "adult content". Lots of the games even have ways to tone down gore and offensive taunts and just stick with gaming. So in a general sense I think that the new owners do need to be aware that a fairly large number of Filefront users will become quite uncomfortable if they begin to change the site's orientation.

Now to be more specific, I myself am known by lots of fellow gamers for being involved in youth ministry and using these games as a way to connect with kids who have serious personality issues. We have a lot of fun plaing on the same team against a common enemy (computer driven) and it really helps to bring us together. Filefronts stand against porn and "sexually oriented imagery" (copied from their rules forum rules, #2) has allowed me to be an active member. I have helped to design a lot of maps and scenarios that are uploaded here on FileFront, but there is no way I could continue involvement on this site if all this were to change.

Granted, some rather rude images have been used as adds on Filefront well before this time but I just figured that is part of making ends meet in the advertising business. They probably don't have a lot of say as to who their add broker sends their way! We get so much for free that I don't think it is right to complain about that. I want to stand in support of FileFront and our great staff who have weathered some serious storms and have done a great job keeping our gaming community together. I just hope that down the road when input is asked for and decisions made, someone stands up for what we have been petitioning on this page, a gaming environment that remains friendly to gamers of all kinds. We are proud of you FileFront Staff!

 #80 - 02-16-2010 at 17:02
bubbleteatroopa
From:
Joined: July 1st, 2008
Posts: 1094
@Freyr
@_sith_ssdironfist

Yeah, whatever. So, I cannot say my opinion of what I think of the staff or else they will ban me? Oh whaw. How nice of you -_-

you make me a sad/angry panda.

So, obiously you guys cannot take a common use of "shut up". Im sorry because it is the internet and I cannot show facial expressions on here, but I didn't mean it as a "SHUT UP YOU STUPID JERK" kinda way.

 #81 - 02-16-2010 at 17:03
bubbleteatroopa
From:
Joined: July 1st, 2008
Posts: 1094
And one more please:

Let me be okay?

Thanks.

 #82 - 02-16-2010 at 18:09
anus_panda
From:
Joined: September 4th, 2004
Posts: 43
Hmm, so the acquisition was 'in the low to mid seven figures'. Does that include decimals or did he pay in yen? Seriously.

I just checked the site stats on Alexa.com (then quantcast.com for a laugh) and wasn't too impressed, did a comparison with moddb (rawr!), gamespy, ign and break (ha). If anyone's up for it then I'd challenge them to do the same... can't link here but I'm sure you can figure it out. The stats for the past 2 years show all the true gaming sites going downhill or sideways, it may be yet another sympton of the consoletardation plague which is sweeping through the industry. Keeping the gaming sites strictly gaming themed doesn't look viable anymore. Incidentally, my site's traffic rank was 28,160,480... that's going on my gravestone!

Edited by Goody
Personal insults towards anyone regardless of who they are in break.com, FileFront has earned you a ban.
As stated we do not tolorate such things and you and others have had plenty of warnings.

 #83 - 02-16-2010 at 18:42
bubbleteatroopa
From:
Joined: July 1st, 2008
Posts: 1094
Post Deleted due to personal attacks.
Goodbye you had enough warnings and are now banned.

 #84 - 02-16-2010 at 20:19
Warthog969
From:
Joined: October 31st, 2006
Posts: 64
Wasn't the whole point of buying back FF in april to make FF about the user's again? now they've gone and sold it before the first year!

 #85 - hmmm - 02-16-2010 at 22:43
Prometheus9594
From:
Joined: June 7th, 2009
Posts: 364
ok i just wanna make a valid point that if this whole network was to have a subscription service then the amount of visits might actualy start decreasing unless the prices for the subs were attractable also i would like to wish best of luck to the break media team n hope that things might improve more around the site n also one last tip if u look at most of the most common sites like deviantart,rapidshare and ofc Megaupload.com whom all already use subscription systems its just that if one was made for this site then that would mainly depend on how it would be used anyways enough from me n also forgive me if i was being slighty off topic.

 #86 - 02-17-2010 at 00:02
attackmike
Joined: December 17th, 2006
Posts: 494
Oh Boy.... here we go again

 #87 - 02-17-2010 at 01:55
Freyr (Staff)
From: (FileFront Network Administrator)
Joined: December 23rd, 2004
Posts: 784
I have now banned Bubbleteatroop and his aliases. We do not tolerate bullying or abuse towards other people here and he was warned. Repeatedly.

 #88 - 02-17-2010 at 08:37
Freyr (Staff)
From: (FileFront Network Administrator)
Joined: December 23rd, 2004
Posts: 784
I thought i'd just drop another message in following my previous message to make something clear.
Quote:
THANK YOU FOR ACTUALLY ANSWERING OUR QUESTIONS WITH FACTS.
Your quite welcome.

Most comments are simply that, and I am sure they will receive appropriate consideration from the management.

I will answer any questions or concerns that are either addressed to me or have not already been answered by a previous post.

Anybody asking a question politely will receive an answer with the same courtesy extended to them.

 #89 - 02-17-2010 at 08:59
foreverrussia1
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Posts: 114
lol
I just want the staff to answer some questions for me.

1.) How much direct control does Break have over FF.
2.) How much control do the staff currently have.
3.) What is Break going to do with the site.
4.) What do we get to do if we don't like it, you know, besides posting those furious and clearly superefficient comments and getting banned. Like you know, BTT, f**king stalin times man, not cool.

 #90 - 02-17-2010 at 09:58
GOODY (Staff)
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Posts: 1000
1) Break.com now owns filefront so they have full control.
2)The staff have normal access and will continue to run the sites as normal.
3)Break is going to invest heavily in FileFront and currently talking to our managers about the best places to invest there time and money first.
4) Well this was posted here for information only. There is another news item asking what people want to see in the new sites.
N0w just because we have new owners does not mean the normal rules do not apply, they do. All myself and the other staff have asked that people post in a respectful manner. Those that have not have been dealt with.
The management asked for suggestions to present to the new owners and they will push to get there way. The managers opinions and peoples suggestions are being taken very seriously but some of the hostile remarks about this is not going to do those making them any good.
It is also interesting that some have complained about these sites being family freindly then turn hostile. Well sorry but members who want to cause trouble and start demanding that things are done there way or not at all will be ignored and if they turn hostile then removed.

So what to do if you don't like any changes that are going to happen? In real life you cannot please all the people all the time and for those who do not like the changes when they arrive should at least give them a chance and if they really cannot live with them then sign out. I am sorry but it really is that simple.

At the end of the day FileFront is going to remain a free hosting service and it may give members the option to pay to remove adverts on a voluntary basis. It will become one of the most upto date gaming files hosting services out there with improve functionality and I for 1 do not see how that is a bad thing.

 #91 - 02-17-2010 at 10:29
Freyr (Staff)
From: (FileFront Network Administrator)
Joined: December 23rd, 2004
Posts: 784
Quote:
lol
I just want the staff to answer some questions for me.

1.) How much direct control does Break have over FF.
2.) How much control do the staff currently have.
3.) What is Break going to do with the site.
4.) What do we get to do if we don't like it, you know, besides posting those furious and clearly superefficient comments and getting banned. Like you know, BTT, f**king stalin times man, not cool.


1) Well, they own us now. I'm guessing you mean, are they taking over from what we are doing? I'll answer your next question, and I think this will be a bit more clear.

2) The answer to this is really in two parts.

2a) The volunteer staff have complete editorial control. I run Armada II Files, for instance. On that site, I have complete control over everything that goes up be it a comment, news article POTD or whatever.

2b) The management get the proceeds of the adverts and pay the bills, check we don't do anything that's going to get them sued, fix things when they break and program in new things for us to use (like the featured files, or the upload system etc.)

This relationship won't change appreciably, your still going to have the same people looking after whichever site you were visiting as before. If you think about it for a bit, what Break will be aiming to do is make us more popular so there are more visits (and therefore more income from adverts!) so you don't really need to worry about them doing something wild that everybody will hate.

3) It's already been answered in considerable detail in previous posts, basically they will be improving things by adding a load of new features and giving the network the first new design it's had in ten years.

4) Break don't want to drive people away. As I say, the income is from adverts. Less people visiting= less income from the adverts. I'm sure that comments here are receiving appropriate consideration from Break's design team, and as Jeff said in his reply to me the Filefront staff are part of this 100%.

I'd just like to be clear, we aren't just banning anybody with an opinion we don't like. There have been precisely two people banned here, both of whom were banned by me. They both went way beyond what's acceptable either socially, or by the few simple rules printed above the textbox that you'd type your reply into. Also, as you can see Goody did warn them beforehand.

If your not throwing personal abuse at us or otherwise breaking one of the rules, your fine. smile

 #92 - 02-17-2010 at 10:57
thecheeseman
Joined: February 25th, 2008
Posts: 354
The relationship between Break and FileFront is the same as if another company bought them - they own FileFront. That doesn't necessarily mean they are going to change everything on the site. I don't think they will change much. If you go around changing major parts of an established site, people might not like the "new you". The FileFront theme has been around for what, five, six years? Maybe more? I don't think it's out-of-date.

I think that the "paying" feature might be like the old FF FastPass - faster downloads, change the max file upload size, no ads, but still not taking away what the free users already have.

Some people are overreacting a bit, but with a good reason. I'm sure that everyone here doesn't want another Ziff Davis going down. We lost many, many members from that and some of them don't even want to come back now, even though we are on a good track.

 #93 - 02-17-2010 at 15:08
foreverrussia1
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Posts: 114
Well hopefully they don't ruin everything.
As you said, they know that if they screw things up, they'll get less views. This is a chance to make the site better, I hope this doesn't work to do the opposite.

As for BTT, the rules are too limiting to what kind of conversations you can have and what you can do in those conversations. The only rules I can agree with are 1, 2 and 3.

 #94 - 02-17-2010 at 15:40
GOODY (Staff)
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You are entitled to agree with none of the rules but you have to agree to follow them when you sign up.
So long as you follow all of them then there will not be a problem and your time here should be a happy one wink

 #95 - 02-17-2010 at 16:43
skywalker421beta
From: (In da hood)
Joined: December 17th, 2009
Posts: 338
thats kinda sad that bubbleteatroopa got baned

 #96 - now that i think about it, its not so bad after all - 02-17-2010 at 23:30
skywalker421beta
From: (In da hood)
Joined: December 17th, 2009
Posts: 338
now that i think about it, its not that bad that break media bout filefront. it will probably give this site more users.

 #97 - 02-18-2010 at 02:34
Freyr (Staff)
From: (FileFront Network Administrator)
Joined: December 23rd, 2004
Posts: 784
Quote:
As for BTT, the rules are too limiting to what kind of conversations you can have and what you can do in those conversations. The only rules I can agree with are 1, 2 and 3.

I can say with a high degree of confidence that "4. No cursing or swear words" will certainly be staying, and so will "5. No attacks against a member or group of members"!

The kind of "discussion" comprised of personal abuse directed at somebody is a kind of "discussion" that most people would happily agree that they don't want on FileFront.

Similarly, nobody likes spambots or people spamming, so obviously those are going to be staying.

Quote:
now that i think about it, its not that bad that break media bout filefront. it will probably give this site more users.

That's what we think as well, which is why most of the staff are pretty happy about it.

 #98 - will bubbluleteatroopa ever be debanned - 02-18-2010 at 03:58
skywalker421beta
From: (In da hood)
Joined: December 17th, 2009
Posts: 338
will bubbleteatroopa ever be debanned.

 #99 - 02-18-2010 at 04:11
foreverrussia1
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Posts: 114
He said 2032 on our forums.

 #100 - @foreverrussia1 - 02-18-2010 at 05:02
skywalker421beta
From: (In da hood)
Joined: December 17th, 2009
Posts: 338
what? he'll be debanned in 2032?

 #101 - bubbleteatroopa banning - 02-18-2010 at 07:45
redeemed74
From: (Xenia, Ohio)
Joined: June 7th, 2008
Posts: 286
Well, this sure isn't the first time that someone has been banned for going too far in what they are saying. There are lots of different ways of expressing emotions, but one of the marks of civilization is that we are 'civil' to one another, meaning we try to contain our anger and work out problems in a constructive way. The good news is that I've know several members who blew up and got banned, but were able to get it worked out and now are back online.

I bet that if bubbleteatroopa simmers down a bit he might have a chance to be reinstated well before 2032! By the way, that might be the number of posts he made on the forums, which indicates a rather active member and one that Filefront would probably like to keep if he can work on his mode of expression. I aggree, though, that he did have some fair warnings and this kind of police action is necessary to keep the forums from degenerating into a raunchy mess, so again I stand behind our staff. Keep up the good work, fellows!

 #102 - 02-18-2010 at 12:10
Freyr (Staff)
From: (FileFront Network Administrator)
Joined: December 23rd, 2004
Posts: 784
Quote:
He said 2032 on our forums.

He lied. It's December the 31st, 2037.

Quote:
The good news is that I've know several members who blew up and got banned, but were able to get it worked out and now are back online.

As you rightly pick up, we don't like banning people. We'll do it if we have to, but we do just prefer people to heed warnings and act in a civilised manner.

As you highlight, we can alter a ban if we feel it's no longer required.

Quote:
this kind of police action is necessary to keep the forums from degenerating into a raunchy mess, so again I stand behind our staff. Keep up the good work, fellows!

Thank you. This can be a thankless job and it's nice to see that it's appreciated. smile

 #103 - 02-18-2010 at 14:47
n0e (Staff)
From: (Spring Hill, TN)
Joined: February 27th, 2004
Posts: 29
Hey guys,

Allow me to try and reply to some of these concerns you all share with Break Media and FileFront.

We have discussed and came to an agreement that FileFront and all of its sites will remain family friendly. Pornography and other NSFW items will still not be allowed. We do bend the rules on a few things on the network in relation to models for characters in game though, as it's not a depiction of a real person it's allowed. This adjustment to the normal rule of no nudity is entirely at the discretion of the Site Manager of their respective site if they feel it's appropriate or not.

I've read that some of you do not like the designs of the other Break sites. This is always a matter of opinion. I've seen a preview of what is planned for FileFront itself and am impressed by what I've seen. We already know and I hope you understand we'll try to make it as presentable to as many users as possible but we know that we will never be able to satisfy everyone.

Regarding the sites being male oriented. Haven't they been male oriented for a while now? Strictly speaking by statistics. This doesn't mean FileFront is going to turn into a gentleman's club with no women allowed. That's just silly. We cater to gamers, not specifically men or women.

I've been in many discussions and will be in many more about the ongoing development of FileFront with Break Media. These guys are the anti-ziff. This is probably why we're so captivated with them. They listen to our suggestions and take them very seriously. In fact, many of our suggestions will be things you will see later on in the year. Why so long? We're basically redesigning the site and everything about it from the ground up. That's a lot of work to do on designing, coding and working with hardware to ensure it's all stable and as bug free as possible. While they do own us, they are making us feel more a part of the company and embracing us as such and less like a subordinate extension that we were with ZD and 1up.

We will still retain daily operational control over FileFront. They will of course have every right to do as they please, but they are being very careful not to step on anyone's toes in the community. They're not stupid, they fully understand that these network sites are community driven and you are what we cater to.

"4) It's suspicious that ALL of the staff members seem to be happy with the acquisition of FileFront. Either they got some e-mail from the suits at the top, or they're scared of being kicked off the site. I would too, after all, what does an unknown multimedia service purchaser know about modding communities and how FileFront works?"

Initially we were all this skeptical about Break's takeover. However after talking with them quite often, none of the Management have that feeling of nervousness or paranoia with what Break wants to do. They're keeping us 100% in the loop and we're liking what we hear.

There is a ton of details that will be released throughout the time we're working on it.

I'll lurk in this thread every now and then and try to answer when I can. My staff whom have answered questions themselves will also provide you with any information they are aware of that they are able to speak of.

Thanks!
Jeff 'n0e' Mills
FileFront Community Manager

 #104 - will this mean there will be an edit button on these posts - 02-18-2010 at 14:54
skywalker421beta
From: (In da hood)
Joined: December 17th, 2009
Posts: 338
i really hate double posting so i think there should be an edit button.
well bye im gona eat a Hmmm Donut! ill brb.

 #105 - 02-18-2010 at 15:36
Bubbleteatroopa2
From:
Joined: November 7th, 2008
Posts: 117
Alright. I sent you guys a letter of apology explaining myself. I know that you IP banned me, so i went on another account to let you know. I want to make it clear that what happened there is explained in the e mail and that I have learn't my lesson. I love filefront and those comments were over the top. Please see the e mail that I sent you guys to the unban@filefront.com (or something like that lol). All I want to do on filefront is to show people my maps and help people with mapping (specifically for EAWFiles). Sorry for what happened, and it will NEVER happen again. Mark my word...NEVA!

 #106 - 02-18-2010 at 15:41
Bubbleteatroopa2
From:
Joined: November 7th, 2008
Posts: 117
Sorry for the double post but there is something that I have to get through so on so fourth



I just want to give a sincere apology to whoever was offended by the comments. It was not meant as such and wont be done again.

I must also say that it is good that break media has gotten through to us again. Thank you Break Media for promising us that it will stay a site for gamers and not a gentlemans club. I want to personally thank you for that.

I hope that the ban can be taken down after you read my e mail because I have a few glitches in one of my maps that needs to be figured out. I thank you all for dealing with what happened.

Thanks and much love (or if that makes you uncomfortable with much gratitude)
~Bubbleteatroopa (or Bubbleteatroopa2 lol)

 #107 - Sorry - 02-18-2010 at 19:17
deadthunder2_0
From: (Texas)
Joined: October 7th, 2009
Posts: 255
look, i didn't meant to be mean, i was only stating that i don't want bad things to happen. now how about that edit button, and my fav, make it where only members can rate files. I would now like to give a suggestion, and i know this was stated in the other thread, but create a brand new layout for our fav site, FileFront!
Im sry for offending any one
deadthunder2_0

 #108 - 02-18-2010 at 22:32
UGSAce
From:
Joined: July 1st, 2005
Posts: 996
whats this? Hmmm Donut!

 #109 - 02-20-2010 at 10:53
acidfluxxbass
From: (Portsmouth)
Joined: August 16th, 2007
Posts: 1627
will break help us get some decent looking network sites?

 #110 - 02-20-2010 at 12:11
bubbleteatroopa
From:
Joined: July 1st, 2008
Posts: 1094
I thank you for un banning me. I just would like to say, that I think an edit button would be a great idea, since sometimes people (like myself) type before they think and often do not word the post right! smile

 #111 - Audio in Ads - 02-22-2010 at 17:03
furswift
From: (New York)
Joined: June 23rd, 2007
Posts: 97
Here's some free advice for the good folks at Break Media:

Please refrain from posting ads with audio that starts playing as soon as you visit the page it's on. It is unbelievably annoying. Thank you.

 #112 - 02-23-2010 at 07:59
ReiDevJord
From: (T E X A S)
Joined: September 16th, 2009
Posts: 15
I remember visiting big-boys.com a few times before it became break.com and I never would have guessed it would have become as successful as it has been. The main thing I remember about the site was the terrible quality of comments (stfu u retard level stuff) and a lot of bashing of the site itself in those comments. It's been years since I intentionally visited that site, and I must say that I don't care much for the content and I hope they don't bring that audience along with them or bring Filefront down to that level.

 #113 - 02-23-2010 at 23:03
_sith_ssdironfist (Staff)
From: (Westbank BC)
Joined: July 7th, 2006
Posts: 180
Even if It does, the staff wont let that happen mate. smile

 #114 - 02-24-2010 at 07:48
chaoslordx13
From: (Sterling Virginia)
Joined: January 21st, 2007
Posts: 585
I remember when some sites i used to visit said that payed memberships would just be basically add free... they bloated those of us who didnt pay frown

as long as this site stays work friendly and doesnt lag down like some of there sites (takes me about a minute to open one of there sites but only a few seconds to open filefront) im actually eager to see the changes, maybe well get avatars and an edit button big grin

 #115 - 02-24-2010 at 07:51
chaoslordx13
From: (Sterling Virginia)
Joined: January 21st, 2007
Posts: 585
sorry for the double post, but I agree with #111 PLEASE dont put those up, i can put up with adds, but please no video or sound adds, they really get annoying frown

but otherwise, welcome big grin

 #116 - i agree with 111 and #114 - 115 - 02-24-2010 at 08:00
skywalker421beta
From: (In da hood)
Joined: December 17th, 2009
Posts: 338
yea it would be nice if it had avatars.

 #117 - 02-28-2010 at 19:37
Fierfek
From:
Joined: June 18th, 2009
Posts: 162
I guess we migh get more people here.... but chickipedia is stupid.

 #118 - MY commens and concerns (and no this is not spam) - 03-10-2010 at 14:48
Tyler_Ziemba
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Posts: 199
Alright, FileFront staff, whether originial or "promoted" by BreakMedia Management, heed this as MY only warning. You might think that I am just "another worthless n00b" that you have called half the people that posted here. BUT LISTEN TO ME! Between running my own clan in the original EaW/FoC game, studying many corporate habits on the news, and my own knowledge of human psychology (the REAL kind, not the bull$hit that they teach at universities) I can tell you one thing: when you signed the contract that put you in Break Media's "leadership", you actually just signed your own death warrant. Can you not realize that?!? I have not visited the links; however, I have seen enough complaints about them from TRUSTWORTHY members (one of which you BANNED *cough* *cough*) to know that they are p0rn0graphic sites, whether or not you're comfortable about admitting it. Now, if they left these sites non-p0rn0, don't you think it'd give Break Media a mixed identity?!? I can assure you that as soon as one single complaint about this comes in, FileFront will be changed from a haven for gamers to a haven for the mentally deranged (if you catch my drift, that is). Also, I know that there is one single solitary reason Break Media bouth you out: PROFIT. I can assure you that the second FileFront no longer yields a profit, IT WILL BE SHUT DOWN. I also find it COMPLETELY INEXCUSABLE THAT YOU BANNED A MEMBER FOR SPEAKING HIS OPINIONS, WHICH WERE NOT AN ATTACK AGAINST A PERSON OR GROUP, DID NOT SWEAR, AND WAS COMPLETELY LEGITIMATE. People, this is not a group that looks out for the interests of the members, a group that bans members the moment they speak out against the leading authority. NO. This is the face of a dictatorial group that cares more about individual profit than the interests of the community. I do not care if you ban me, but heed this warning BEFORE you hit that "ban" button: this post is not violating a single rule, and if you do ban me, a person who had the courage to speak up against a company spanning hundreds of thousands of people and hundreds of websites, this will be viewed, let me say, unfavorable, by the rest of the community, and if you do ban me, other people just like me will step up, and I will tell you that you're going to ha e a few less bucks in your pockets. FILEFRONT AND COMMUNITY, HEED THIS WARNING, FOR IT SHALL NOT BE REPEATED!! And no, this is not spam. This is someone who has a passion for his cause, and wishes to make sure that EVERYONE has a chance to view his message.

 #119 - 03-12-2010 at 03:59
GOODY (Staff)
From:
Joined: April 24th, 2005
Posts: 1000
Hey well done on getting this closed to new comments. Why you may ask well I will enlighten you.
You talk of pornography being breaks type of site and yet you have not visited there site. That is as idiotic as your post tbh. How on earth can you say trust me on this and heed my only warning when you have not even looked at the parent site for us.

Now onto the bans. All I will say is you are not staff and you do not know all the facts. You can blow smoke as much as you like but when you start disrespecting people (staff or normal members) we will remove you. That is our right as it is our website and you will abide by the sites rules or be banned. It really is that simple.
On the subject of the bans you obviously did not see that the bans were overturned as a short sharp shock worked in these occasions. I however do not have to explain this to you or anyone but I am doing so as a gesture.

Now heed my only warning to you.
You have made statements that you have not researched and others that you have no info about. This kind of negativity in itself is not welcome as that is all it is as your statement does not contain any truths or actual facts.
We welcome opinions but your hard to read wall of nonsense is not a opinion and if you wish to go on and on the learn to use paragraphs and punctuation with actual facts because next time i see a post like this that is a outright attack full of untruths I will remove it and you.

Goody
FileFront Network Administrator



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