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  The sky is falling! - FileFront News
  Posted by: c_tech on 09-29-2008 @ 14:29
This News Item has been viewed 343,617 times
Recently I began removing illegal content from the networks. My purposes were twofold: to keep FileFront from being shut down, and to become wildly unpopular within the network community. Mission accomplished! That's right, don't be too hard on the network staff; they were just following orders. I'm the evil puppet master here, thank you very much! And now, I'll answer questions from the audience.

No one cares, why are you being such a bunch of jerks?

SILENCE PEON. Er, what I meant to say is that people do care. Trust me, I hear from them every day! And contrary to popular opinion, it's not always a faceless corporation siccing their lawyers on us; I receive dozens of messages every week from independent artists, writers, composers, and other creative types, asking me to respect their copyright by removing infringing files. For many of them this is their livelihood, and they really can't afford to have us bootlegging their work because it's “no big deal.”

Those files have been here for weeks/months/years. Why did you wait so long to remove them?

Because I didn't know they were there. I assumed that the people running things before I showed up were monitoring the network for illegal content, but apparently this was not the case. But the law doesn't care how long something has been on our site - once it's discovered it has to go. So now that I know these files are here, I am obligated to remove them. It's not a matter of personal opinion, or whether I like or dislike the files I remove - it's the law!

You're all hypocrites because I found this one file with copyrighted content in it!

Actually we're all human. We can't be everywhere at once, and I guarantee there will always be files we miss. Why else would we have systems in place that allow users to report inappropriate content? What matters is that at the end of the day we can honestly say we did our best to play by the rules.

On that note, I'd like you all to take a look at this article about a recent lawsuit brought against Veoh, another content sharing site on the net:

http://www.techcrunch.com/2008/08/28/what-the-veoh-decision-means-for-youtube-and-others/

Of particular import is the idea that while it's understood we won't have a site that's 100% free of infringing content, we do have to actively police what's on our servers.

So what constitutes a violation anyway? It's totally unclear!

Well, your first stop is the user agreement for FileFront:
http://aup.legal.filefront.com/

Check the part titled 'Copyright Policy' at the end. There's also a file upload page that elaborates on some of those points here:
http://uploadhosted.filefront.com/

Copyright can be tricky; I've been working with copyright issues for years now and I still don't know all the ins and outs. One thing I can say definitively though: it's up to the copyright holder. If someone slaps us with a cease-and-desist notice because somewhere there's a file with 5 seconds of their music in it, we'll remove the file. That's life unfortunately - if you want to use copyrighted content, even small clips, you have to be prepared for the possibility of the creator shutting you down.

That said, we have yet to receive a single takedown request for short clips, be they of music, tv shows, or even movies. Mods using sound effects from a movie/tv show/etc. are A-OK with us, as are fan-made music videos using clips from game cut scenes, shows, and the like. On the other hand, music copyright makes up the bulk of complaints we receive, so music mods which use copyrighted music are a big no-no. And let me just get this out of the way: don't be the smartass who uploads a bunch of music with the last 20 seconds cut off the end of each song. Don't be that guy. That guy sucks.

If after reading all this you're still not sure if the content you want to upload is ok, ask us! There's no guessing or worrying involved, just get in touch with the site you want to contribute to and tell them why you're uncertain. Remember, we're in this business because we want to make enormous piles of money. But in addition to the money (which I'm still waiting for... what's taking so long?), we also want to be a resource for the gaming community. And while I'm sorry that we can't accept every file submitted, without this oversight there wouldn't be a network in the first place. So please, do your part to keep our network clean!



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 #1 - 09-29-2008 at 14:58
PKM
From: (Philadelphia)
Joined: June 25th, 2005
Posts: 1029
correct me if i'm wrong but while not a standing rule but rather rule of thumb , i believe using 20 seconds or less of media (audio/video) is usually ''acceptable'' across the web .

 #2 - Thanks Charlie - 09-29-2008 at 15:00
rwhitaker
Joined: August 9th, 2007
Posts: 1
This should clarify things nicely. Again, it's not our evil dictatorship, it's simply the current day climate on the internet. If any of you have questions, please do as Charlie says and ask!

That said, I'd like to thank everyone for understanding the necessity for this, and please, don't give in to the idea that the sky is falling.

 #3 - question and let me get it straight - 09-29-2008 at 15:13
RAJeff
Joined: April 17th, 2007
Posts: 31
So let me get it straight. Over time a bunch of people posted illegal content on filefront. Much of it has been taken down, but still some remain and will be removed. Am I correct?

For all the items people post by pressing the host file button on filefront, isn't there someone at the other end or or someone that has the job of checking all recent file submitted content? If so why have they not been checking this stuff more?

Has action been taken against those who posted the content? Has this just hurt filefront's reputation, or has it hurt it in other ways?

What is filefront going to do to prevent future illegal file posting? Meaning what precautions and is filefront going to do differently in the future?

 #4 - 09-29-2008 at 16:04
afcgrimm
From: (New Hampshire)
Joined: August 6th, 2005
Posts: 941
From what I see, when they say "Illegal Content" they mean movie files with copyrighted music, sound mods with sounds ripped directly from major motion pictures, or, I'll pick on something I noticed on Halo Files, direct uploads of entire soundtracks. Just a little bit annoying to go out, buy a CD for $25, log onto Filefront and see the whole set uploaded onto the network.

 #5 - 09-29-2008 at 16:21
kit89
From:
Joined: December 11th, 2005
Posts: 141
@RAJeff

(2nd Question) The Staff at FileFront usually do check every file that passes through their servers. However the staff don't know everything, if a staff member has no knowledge of the music, texture, model, animations etc in question then they can't determine whether it is legit or not. Therefore they must trust the Member who uploaded to be following the rules.
// End

Is a Member, who submitted the illegal file e-mailed that his/her content has been removed due to X, Y & Z reasons?

 #6 - we do check - 09-29-2008 at 16:30
PKM
From: (Philadelphia)
Joined: June 25th, 2005
Posts: 1029
we do check every file however, in order to meet the demands of members wanting their files showing up onsite after being submitted in a good amount of time, we generally do not download and trial run every single file . if this were the case, it'd be a good day if you a member's submitted files were posted within a month . these are member's sites , nothing says any member who feels a mod may have copyright violations can't report it . there's 1 of us to every couple hundred (sometimes thousand) of you .

 #7 - 09-29-2008 at 18:25
CanadianBorg
From:
Joined: June 15th, 2008
Posts: 473
To #6: Are there really that many of us? I thought this was a small and scattered community spanning the globe. Or am I mistaken? I somehow doubt that there are thousands of us. As for the whole copyright thing, I say this: We live in the Information Age.

"Beware he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart, he dreams himself your master." -Brother Lal, Sid Meier's Alpha Centauri computer game

Just a thought.

-CanadianBorg

P.S. Resistance is futile, eh?

 #8 - 09-29-2008 at 18:45
LeeRyder
From: (San Pedro, California)
Joined: September 15th, 2003
Posts: 204
Good for you for standing up against the self righteous thieves online who feel they somehow deserve everything in life for free.


I am impressed.. and now, I am a loyal customer for as long as you keep on doing the right thing.

 #9 - 09-29-2008 at 18:49
Armdude (Staff)
From: (Pro Mic Spammer)
Joined: March 19th, 2007
Posts: 1171
well the internet is all over the world so really its not that hard to realise that the entire world can read this comment im posting and yours, kinda weird though because you would think that there would be a lot more people speeking different languages besides english. eek!

 #10 - 09-29-2008 at 18:53
Suleyman_Eisenhower
Joined: March 8th, 2006
Posts: 604
Good. Filefront should do its best to avoid posting illegal content.

 #11 - 09-29-2008 at 18:56
Barihawk
Joined: January 15th, 2007
Posts: 200
Just for the BC guys, the FF Network Staff (when they post in these global announcements) appear on every network site. They do not see your posts unless they read this announcement at BCFiles.

The exact same FF Network Staff comments are showing up at the announcement on Legacy Files.

 #12 - 09-29-2008 at 18:59
Barihawk
Joined: January 15th, 2007
Posts: 200
Scratch that, I am wrong. embarrasment

 #13 - 09-29-2008 at 19:03
dac948
From:
Joined: April 25th, 2008
Posts: 83
good to see file front still cares

 #14 - 09-29-2008 at 19:32
NCC1017spock
Joined: August 24th, 2007
Posts: 221
THANK GOD, about time this place gets a look over..... I am the one here that 100% against illage files and stuff liek that Rock

 #15 - License chop - 09-29-2008 at 21:37
Zube1337
From: (Singapore)
Joined: July 17th, 2007
Posts: 575
Like some customization community like FPSBanana,they place a skin license,map license like this:

===
Skin License

This Skin is free to download, but may not be free to modify or redistribute. Please respect the authors' wishes.
==

Like that.I think FileFront need to put this up.

I hope this Filefront network doesn't fall down.

I am not complaining or something,I just pointing several things out.

 #16 - 09-29-2008 at 21:39
Zube1337
From: (Singapore)
Joined: July 17th, 2007
Posts: 575
FF staff may sound or look uncare but I am certain they aren't like that.100.2 4 star% sure.

 #17 - 09-29-2008 at 21:40
Zube1337
From: (Singapore)
Joined: July 17th, 2007
Posts: 575
I can't miss the older files.I think FF need to place some catergory on older and newest file.big grin

 #18 - 09-29-2008 at 22:39
anazonda
From: (Syd-Jylland)
Joined: January 6th, 2003
Posts: 790
#3:

Quote:
For all the items people post by pressing the host file button on filefront, isn't there someone at the other end or or someone that has the job of checking all recent file submitted content? If so why have they not been checking this stuff more?

You're right. Someone is sitting in the other end checking the file. Unfortunally we don't always know that stuff is copyrighted.

It happens every now and then that we refuse a file, but in the end, as stated above we're just human.

I spend many hours a month writing emails to fileposters regarding content of their files in one way or another. But we can't catch everything in the first round.

Also becauce Copyright law is sometimes diffrent depending on the contry you come from.

 #19 - 09-29-2008 at 22:58
The_Crazy_Assassin
From:
Joined: September 11th, 2004
Posts: 604
If only copywrite laws were simpler...

And why do they have to be so bleeping harsh, anyway? It's like, you accidentally break them without even realizing it, and you get sued a million ways to Monday!

Great job, America. Once again, we've proved we can be complete jerks by throwing more lawsuits around than there are dollar bills.

Bah. I guess it's for reasons like this that we end up checking everything that comes across our desks over here are Jedi Knight Files.

 #20 - Sounds good - 09-30-2008 at 00:46
logicisonlythebeginning
From: (ID)
Joined: May 17th, 2004
Posts: 125
Well done and thank you!!!

 #21 - 09-30-2008 at 01:24
apoclaydon
From: (Liverpool)
Joined: October 6th, 2006
Posts: 331
well i'm glad that illegal content is being taken care off just keep up the work keepin FF online

 #22 - 09-30-2008 at 02:35
RussianComrade
From:
Joined: July 4th, 2005
Posts: 986
Quote:
SILENCE PEON

Hah!

A good move imo.

 #23 - Right on! - 09-30-2008 at 04:28
redeemed74
From: (Xenia, Ohio)
Joined: June 7th, 2008
Posts: 286
Good going, Charlie and the team! I know it can make you unpopular in the short term, but I know that every one of the many thousands of users (is that right? yep, check out how many times some files have been downloaded!) appreciates the organized way you manage so many maps and mods, and if the way for us to keep on enjoying the benefits of File Front (and you to keep your job) is to give up some stuff that shouldn't have been there anyway, know that there are a lot of us that stand solidly behind you.

Say, what I'm reading kind of makes me hurt inside that you guys (and gals perhaps) are under a lot of pressure to do a job so may people obviously take for granted. When I read that page you referred to about the lawsuits it made me think of something. Just as there are beta testers for most mods and such, what about having a way that gamers could help with the in-depth checking part for complex uploads that could contain possible infringements (music, graphics and such)? You could still post the files at the same rate, but soon after ones up there zap your helpers an email or have a special page asking for a simple content-based review. A number of gamers like us who download these and mess with them for hours (hey, for us it's fun!) probably wouldn't mind taking a few extra minutes to give some feedback, especially if we felt that it was a contribution to the rest of the community. Up until now I never thought to say anything if I thought I recognized something or really don't know how I would do it. I think it would be good to handle outside the normal comment area, since the innocent sometimes get suspected and it would be nicer not to be embarrassed in a public forum!

A side benefit to encouraging downloaders to be on the lookout also could be to help guys out there who think piracy doesn't matter see that instead of being 'unpopular' those who stand up against it are heros! Honest dealing comes around to help us all in the end. Enough piracy, and the music, video and gaming industries are out of business! Really – “The worker is worthy of his wage”. If you want something, buy it. If you are getting something for free or it's something we all share, be a good citizen and at least pull your weight!

 #24 - tell them man! - 09-30-2008 at 07:30
townsforever
From: (Amercia)
Joined: March 31st, 2008
Posts: 303
right on give those jerks what 4! Rock

 #25 - 09-30-2008 at 07:40
Shadymilkman
From: (Texas)
Joined: December 21st, 2005
Posts: 127
So what exactly was illegal content? An example or something

 #26 - 09-30-2008 at 08:45
Abbadon_the_Despoiler
From: (Swindon)
Joined: July 10th, 2005
Posts: 213
Let me quickly add, that although this does not fall under copyright laws - Dawn Of War Files will not upload any cheat software such as trainers to their servers, as this presents an unfair advantage to other players.

Copyright is complicated to discuss, but as a general rule - if you didn't make it and haven't got the owners permission, don't use it. If you don't know who made it, don't use it.

 #27 - 09-30-2008 at 09:24
SoBF_Starbuck
From:
Joined: July 8th, 2007
Posts: 105
Good for you! I only use cheats on GTA:SA smile I will freely admit i can't get past a few missions so i get myself a jetpack or health armor and a quarter of a mil. I am a noob at GTA:SA and damn proud of it. Now BF2 on the other hand i will hunt down anybody who hacks or cheats. It might be fun to see 5000000000001 DPVs or boats at first but when the lag hits you scream like a baby.


@All Admins i am glad to know that our "Evil Dictator" has a sense of humor.

[56AB]D|Sgt.Starbuck. (21CW)

 #28 - 09-30-2008 at 09:25
The_Farseer
From: (Kent WA)
Joined: August 28th, 2007
Posts: 1258
I'm glad to hear that someone is doing this smile Violation of intellectual copyright laws is running rampant in this country and very few people (aside from the copyright holders) acknowledge this issue. Many people are ignorant to the rules while even more people just don't care. Two Thumbs Up!

 #29 - 09-30-2008 at 16:29
bbejones
From: (Calgary, Alberta)
Joined: December 27th, 2007
Posts: 244
... The Farseer... filefront isn't JUST for one country... so, you could say; "Copyright Laws in this World", instead of "in this Country"...

 #30 - 09-30-2008 at 23:00
xCondemnedx
From: (Launceston,Tasmania)
Joined: September 13th, 2008
Posts: 44
Sounds good.
Friggin' Pirates. "Yarr.."

 #31 - 09-30-2008 at 23:54
seancsnm
Joined: December 24th, 2007
Posts: 209
It is a good thing that the staff are getting on this. On a side note, there are about 5 almost complete soundtracks on the Elder Scrolls site.

 #32 - 10-01-2008 at 01:23
Ronnie
From: (Leiden)
Joined: December 4th, 2002
Posts: 647
Do you have any links to those soundtracks?

 #33 - 10-01-2008 at 03:45
stoneydumples
Joined: November 6th, 2004
Posts: 45
I totally agree with redeemed74 (post #23).

If something could be implemented like what he's described, that would take a ton of work off your shoulders and make a much more thorough sweep of the site. Istead of just having a sheriff, employ a neighborhood watch type deal.

 #34 - 10-01-2008 at 11:55
starfox1701
From: (newberry S.C.)
Joined: December 12th, 2007
Posts: 525
Ah finally the intelegent people come out to postcool

 #35 - 10-01-2008 at 12:23
Freyr (Staff)
From: (FileFront Network Administrator)
Joined: December 23rd, 2004
Posts: 784
Quote:
It is a good thing that the staff are getting on this. On a side note, there are about 5 almost complete soundtracks on the Elder Scrolls site.

Could you look up where you remembered seeing them? I have had a quick trawl through the sites archive and I can't see anything that needs removing.

 #36 - 10-01-2008 at 12:35
Mikouen
From: (Hull)
Joined: July 18th, 2008
Posts: 219
I like this new "It's about time everyone stood up and did their jobs 100%!" policy.

Don't get me wrong, Jos was an ace guy, but I always felt he was a little too.... apathetic.... when it came to these things.

 #37 - 10-01-2008 at 13:50
Riker_E
Joined: July 29th, 2007
Posts: 50
What's wrong with the kobmaru mod though, i know it got pulled, at least last i'd heard.

They i'd imagine have listed every credit, every mod, and for audio, theres really no way to get something like a phaser short of recording the sound....

Just a curiosity...

 #38 - 10-01-2008 at 14:01
Dimanche
From:
Joined: July 5th, 2008
Posts: 465
Copyright...?
That's not good. Good to see people doing something about it though. I do personally like the neighborhood watch thing idea mentioned somewhere.
What's the charge for posting files that have copyright infringement? I really wanted to know...

 #39 - 10-01-2008 at 14:10
Browncoat1984
Joined: September 15th, 2007
Posts: 13
@#38: The charge for posting such files is you get branded a heatnen and a sinner and will go to hell where you will burn in the lake of fire forever and ever and ever. Endless torment. Oh, and you have to share a room with the telletubbies.

 #40 - 10-01-2008 at 15:04
kirk2164
Joined: February 25th, 2007
Posts: 340
The fall is skying!

 #41 - 10-01-2008 at 15:09
kahless5
From: (Deck Five)
Joined: May 20th, 2004
Posts: 374
@39 I wasnt too scared by the Lake of Fire, or the Endless Torment..But when u said teletubbies--I abandoned my plans of being a Copyright Pirate!

 #42 - WOW my word on this - 10-01-2008 at 16:25
cliperkins
From: (warwickshire)
Joined: June 20th, 2004
Posts: 119
I cant belive it. some people are warning that they will remove there mods from the site due to this, but i say most modders when posting there mods on file front put this
''Permission must be sought from both ...... and ....... before modification and subsequent publication of the mod, texture sets and any other related file in the archive.
They can be uploaded in any site but credits MUST be given. ''
So have would they like it if some one did use there mod with out permission , They report it to file front and the file is removed, this should be the same with the music files.
So its about time. plus its easy to put your own music file in your bc on your PC. so theres no need to put them on bc file front is there.
thats all i got to say about that

 #43 - 10-01-2008 at 23:31
The_Farseer
From: (Kent WA)
Joined: August 28th, 2007
Posts: 1258
@#29: I could...but copyright laws aren't the same around the world and because I only live in one country I have no idea the level of piracy that goes on in other countries. Therefore, what I said was correct. I suppose I should say that I live in the U.S. but I assume you assumed that....

 #44 - 10-02-2008 at 07:40
Mikouen
From: (Hull)
Joined: July 18th, 2008
Posts: 219
The FileFront website is governed by US federal law anyway, because the physical location of the servers is in Texas.

 #45 - 10-02-2008 at 08:34
SilentBob00
From: (Midway, GA)
Joined: February 10th, 2004
Posts: 246
I don't really understand the big move here other than the site probably started getting a lot of copyright infringement notices. Entire soundtracks for games being taken down is a no brainer but what else could need taken down? All of the mods here are for fun and not intended for sale. Or does the MPAA/RIAA see things differently??
hmmm.... 1 copyrighted song...20 second clip of it in a mod...downloaded 137 times..... why that is going to cost *holds pinky to lip* 1 hundred billion dollars stick out tongue
lol seriously though, the copyright law in this country is sad indeed.

 #46 - 10-02-2008 at 08:34
JimmyB76
From: (Rhode Island)
Joined: September 18th, 2002
Posts: 579
Quote:
I cant belive it. some people are warning that they will remove there mods from the site due to this
if i could please elaborate on this one thing quickly...
some modders in the BC Community are really considering pulling their mods from BCFiles not because of Filefront's policy, but because of some of the nasty and rude things that have been said about people recently posting their objections based upon their confusion in all this recent shake-up...
at first, there was confusion and maybe a little worry or objection, but that quickly subsided...
and then there were some people calling others' mods, that were pulled, "insignificant" and other rude comments about modders and their reconsideration as to where they may want their mods hosted...
and it absolutely does not help the issue at all when you have the LegacyFiles Site Manager IKS Yo Mama insulting BC modders and the BC Community by posting in a news item at BCFiles:
Quote:
Amazing how this is the only community panicking on the network? Perhaps a bit of maturity is needed...stop panicking and grow up!
(that news item at BCFiles and all the comments was deleted yesterday)
he is a Site Manager and is supposed to be representing FileFront as a whole... i can only hope the rest of the Filefront Staff and Admins dont have this sort of attitude and sentiment to BC Modders and the BC Community... that is so very rude, arrogant, and condescending for a Site Manager to say about another community...
statements like this, and others that were posted by some other patrons, really upset alot of people who spend their own unpaid free time to make mods for everyone to enjoy and make everyone's gaming experience all the more awesome... but when you get some people posting rude things, and especially when one of them is a Filefront Staff member also, i can fully understand why some modders are now starting to consider to keep their past and future mods to their friends, people with respect and maturity, and sites like BCC and BCS and their patrons only, where there is no such rudeness or disrespect...
so whereas people blame and down-talk modders for pulling their mods and say they are "overreacting" and whatever else, it is actually the rudeness of others and at least one FileFront Staff member, that was shown at BCFiles the last few days, that pushes them to reconsider... and frankly, i cant say i blame those modders one bit for their reconsideration...
and that is why some modders are considering pulling their files from BCFiles...

 #47 - That about says it all... - 10-02-2008 at 13:14
The_Grand_Nagus
Joined: September 19th, 2008
Posts: 1
http://forums.filefront.com/st-sc3-modding-editing/379179-hypocritical-news.html

 #48 - 10-02-2008 at 17:16
BLasToFF
Joined: August 21st, 2007
Posts: 435
I have to agree with JimmyB. (wow, that rhymes XD)

The high interactivity of this site should be considered a luxury, not a right.

That sentence pretty much sums up this news clipping, and my thoughts for
everybody's whinning.I'm starting to think that people just ignore those rules >_>.

Basically, if the Network decides your file is no longer acceptable due to copyright
laws, or cause it doesn't represent the community in a pleasent way, then pucker
up and post your mod somewhere else. There's Fileplanet, modDB, plus a host of
other sites that will accept your mod, or not.

The amount of files this network hosts is staggering. If you ever look at the top,
right hand panel, you can see there are terrabytes of mods for BC alone. Not
counting other sites. Your not paying anything to have your file hosted here. Your
not paying anything to get the awesome (sometimes erradic) download speed you
get here.

There's no reason to complain other then to satisfy your personal ego. If you can't
bypass your ego and just live with it, then the moderators have the full right to just
remove you from this website. Don't make more trouble for the moderators and
network staff here, they already have other important stuff then dealing with some
bruised ego.

 #49 - 10-03-2008 at 11:27
faro0485
From: (London)
Joined: October 10th, 2006
Posts: 84
Avoid listening to music.... problem solved!

 #50 - Aiming for a Balance - 10-03-2008 at 14:27
redeemed74
From: (Xenia, Ohio)
Joined: June 7th, 2008
Posts: 286
I think that JimmyB76 (post #46) had made a reasonable point about people getting offended. It's easy in the middle of a big issue to get steamed up and say things that were a bit out of line. I'm a father of 3 kids under 8 years old and more than once have broke my own rules of demeanor when dealing with a crisis. After things die down and I get my bearings back I try to make it up to them showing that "no one is above the law - even daddy!" But it doesn't mean that I can then be disrespected or disregarded!

In the issue at hand, I think the FileFront staff have made a bold step forward and resolved some issues they should be applauded for. In doing it they did have to deal with a number of attitude issues that I'm sure were not pleasant. The staff member who gave the 'offending' statement may well have had good reason to for the people it was directed for, but obviously others reading it took it personally (his wording was too general.) I think that FileFront has dealt properly with the issue by removing the post and preventing further unintended offence. Now that it has turned up on this page I think it is only appropriate that it be brought into perspective with the overall issue at hand. No other modders than the ones who were freaking out BEFORE the post really needed to take it personally anyway as it wasn't directed to them, but it is good that it is gone to avoid any more problems. So in the end I applaud FileFront for their dealings in both attacking piracy at its core and removing offending posts!

But I think FileFront has dealt reasonably with this issue by removing the offending statement

 #51 - 10-04-2008 at 02:08
Sciacca
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Joined: March 22nd, 2007
Posts: 56
At the end of the day there really arent two sides to the copyright coin. You either agree to copyright, and play by it's rules, or, you disregard copyright and get labelled a moron. We do make a point of checking files as we approve them, but as others have said we can miss things. Seriously when you get a skin that looks like a five year old has attacked it with paintbucket it can be difficult to tell if the author has stolen it.

 #52 - 10-07-2008 at 11:41
wildpeaks
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I wonder what kind of copyrighted contents can be on a mods site ?? People uploaded mods they didn't do, stuffs like that ?

 #53 - 10-07-2008 at 13:48
Mikouen
From: (Hull)
Joined: July 18th, 2008
Posts: 219
That'd be more in the line of "plagiarism", rather than copyrights.

Every single site on this network should have policies against plagiarism already; if not, I'd recommend that as the next thing for Charlie to mull over.

 #54 - 10-07-2008 at 16:17
scottyz23
From: (Idaho)
Joined: July 22nd, 2006
Posts: 146
I do find this problem kinda...funny. not mean, just intresting.

Just remember that-

"People love to talk but hate to listen."Roll Eyes (sarcastic)

 #55 - helo - 10-08-2008 at 04:34
Zarmoz
From: (Bodø)
Joined: March 27th, 2008
Posts: 18
madeek!confused lalerm! ksd! kdo!

 #56 - 10-14-2008 at 10:48
Elvis_Scatter
From: (Dąbrowa Górnicza)
Joined: June 25th, 2008
Posts: 181
Are you crazy?

 #57 - 10-18-2008 at 16:39
DarthShgaad
Joined: July 14th, 2007
Posts: 169
qq moar lol

 #58 - hey - 11-12-2008 at 05:56
moviemaker101
From: (ohio)
Joined: June 10th, 2007
Posts: 29
i love filefront for all my gta mod needs and tools and i dont want it ruined becaues of some stupid little kids posting stuff that dont belong on here get a job and stop bootlegging stuff man get a actually job and stop posting illlegal files throw them in jail whos ever doing it



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